There is this really interesting guy living in my old space now, a writer up from the states to meet Canada. His stuff is just too fun and insightful to leave isolated in my own mailbox.
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In tor.general you write: >The property: > VERY Quiet > Bloor West Village > 3 bedroom two story apartment in home (basement and first floor). > Available: Immediately Hi there! I just caught this ad -- don't know if it's still available, but let me run some questions by you if possible. First I'll explain my situation: I'm a US citizen looking to spend some extended time in Toronto. My lease where I currently live is up June 1 and I'm in a somewhat tight position of trying to find a place before then. Due to a curent project I'm working on (I'm a freelance writer and just completing a book) I haven't much time to scope out apartments in Toronto. I was actually considering possibilities that were a little "lower" than your post, but your post seems to fit my bill in a number of ways. I do, for example, have a car, that I don't intend to use very often but need somewhere to park. I plan to spend about a year there (as a visitor, my income is through my freelance work). I'm interested in learning about the city and Canada.On a daily basis, though, I will mostly spend time in front of my computer writing -- and since I live on the Internet I'll need my own phone line, but if the room doesn't already have that I assume I can pay to get one. I'm not terribly interested in location so long as I can get to downtown with my bicycle in about 15 minutes or less. I'm not familiar enough with the area to know if the Bloor area you're renting is within the radius I described. Also, $400/month is about the top of my price range, so I was wondering if utilities were included or not in that (I don't know the general practice there). Overall, though, I'm really not very picky. I should tell you a quick bit about myself: I'll be 23 at the end of may, college grad here in the states now writing (in case you missed that part earlier ;-). Quiet, mostly compute, have no problem with cats or any other animal, save for wild boars. (I live with two ferrets of my roomate's now. Little cuties.) That's about it -- because my time is _extremely_ limited to search & find I'm pretty willing to jump on whatever I can find - I can squeeze a day or two to make a trip up to Toronto (I'm in central NY now, so it's only a 5 hour trip) if and when I have to. I plan to sometime as soon as I have some idea I can find something and I'm not booted out of my current pad. Anyway, c'est ca, thanks for hearing me out... If you have anything to add as per my comments, or just want to tell me to go away it's already sold, that'd be great.. I can be reached by replying to this message, or more directly at "aaron@dfw.net" or even MORE directly by the good ol' phone at 607-257-9491. Thanks much, Aaron -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 16:05:39 -0400
Hi, it's me again, of a scant few e-mails ago... I've been thinking about it some more, and I just wanted to let you know that the circumstances and queries that I outlined in my previous message seem okay to you, I would like to be counted as "very interested." As I said, I don't have a heck of a lot of time, and combined with the fact that I'm not searching for an embryonic fit, your offer sounds quite good (in fact, a little better than I was aiming for). If I can reach downtown by bike, and if I can add a phone line to my room, that's about all I need to know (and about the utilities). I'd be happy and willing to talk further about specific arrangements/payments/logistics if we get past those few minor details. Anyway, not to be too redundant, but I just wanted to re-highlight that I'm quite interested, even not on sight, since I don't have much of that luxury. Thanks for hearing me out again... -Aaron p.s. Hopefully this email address is the best one out of your -- what was it, six? -- different possibilities ;-) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-From: cburke@nexus.yorku.ca (Carolyn L Burke)
Dear Aaron, I think you would really love the place. Thanks for your enthusiasm. Its nice to meet you. I have no idea how long it would take to bicycle downtown ... I suspect about 1/2 an hour. However.... your new roommate Peter who is a budding author himself also has a car that he uses quite freely to assist others around a lllthe time. He'd probably be pleased to drop you half way to downtown. :) The $400 / month includes everything (I'll through in the parking for free in the garage). Unlike the states, we don't care as much about leases up here. Checks and receipts are sufficent for tax purposes and so usually are sufficient to close the deal. Otherwise the place is large, sunny, warm, and laid back (very much for Toronto). If you would like to take the place, I'd ask only that you mail up first and last. I'll stick in the address below. Interestingly, Nedra who lives in the apartment has a boyfriend in Buffalo who makes the trip up once in awhile. He's a grad student and seems quite busy. She's 24, I think. Peter is 31, and like I said, a budding author. I'm editting a book of his currently called -- The Electronic Sage. Its a collection of really intense email exchanges between him and a number of his friends. I'm gong to make it into a Web format and then send it to my agent. (I write various short prose pieces, a couple of which have been published.) You sound like you'd fit in well here. I personally won't be livin there as I just got an apartment of my own for awhle. How long would you be interested in taking the place for do you think? (I tend to be rather verbose first thing in the mrning ... I'd better let you go now!) Yours, Carolyn Mailing address (for now only as I move) Attn: Carolyn Burke 9 Alpine Avenue Toronto, ON M6P 3R6 Canada -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 07:43:20 -0500 (CDT)
On Sun, 30 Apr 1995, Carolyn L Burke wrote:
> Dear Aaron,
>
> I think you would really love the place. Thanks for your enthusiasm.
> Its nice to meet you.
>
> I have no idea how long it would take to bicycle downtown ... I suspect
> about 1/2 an hour. However.... your new roommate Peter who is a budding
> author himself also has a car that he uses quite freely to assist others
> around a lllthe time. He'd probably be pleased to drop you half way to
> downtown. :)
>
Woo-hoo -- I think that is fine, 1/2 hour is just as well, that much more
exercise (though Toronto is rather flat compared to Ithaca where I live
now, which should make for a pleasant change!).
> The $400 / month includes everything (I'll through in the parking for
> free in the garage). Unlike the states, we don't care as much about
> leases up here. Checks and receipts are sufficent for tax purposes
> and so usually are sufficient to close the deal.
>
Sounds good to me. Who needs laws and regulations and things anyway? ;-)
They just lien on the human spirit!
> Otherwise the place is large, sunny, warm, and laid back (very much for
> Toronto). If you would like to take the place, I'd ask only that you
> mail up first and last. I'll stick in the address below.
> Interestingly, Nedra who lives in the apartment has a boyfriend in
> Buffalo who makes the trip up once in awhile. He's a grad student and
> seems quite busy. She's 24, I think. Peter is 31, and like I said, a
> budding author. I'm editting a book of his currently called -- The
> Electronic Sage. Its a collection of really intense email exchanges
> between him and a number of his friends. I'm gong to make it into a Web
> format and then send it to my agent. (I write various short prose
> pieces, a couple of which have been published.)
>
OOh-- another Internet-related author? That would be two in one house. I
hope there's no legal limit ("maximum capacity of Internet authors: 2").
> You sound like you'd fit in well here. I personally won't be livin
> there as I just got an apartment of my own for awhle. How long would
> you be interested in taking the place for do you think? (I tend to be
> rather verbose first thing in the mrning ... I'd better let you go now!)
>
It all sounds quite good to me. I will talk to some confidants quickly
and get back to you, but that will be very soon, probably the same day as
you get this email (maybe right after this email). I don't have a
specific time frame in mind - I was figuring a year on the assumption
that my "assumed" visa allows for 180 days a pop and I've been told that
I shouldn't have any problem getting another 180 days after the first. I
am willing to say/commit to a year for your sake, though, and if any
problems were to arise they'll be on my shoulders, I won't put them on
yours (not that I forsee any, just covering my ace of bases).
I agree, it sounds very good! About first and last payment, I'm not that
experienced with international financial dealings. That is, I'm not sure
if I should send you a check straight from my US bank account for the US
equivalent of $800 Canadian, or if I should convert the equivalent into
$800CA first and send you that, or what. Haven't done this sort of thing
before. If you have any advice, please let me know -- I'll do whatever is
appropriate.
And I'll get back to you again, soon, in a little while (but since you're
not reading this e-mail as I write it, my next one may be in your mailbox
right below this one. It's magic. It's a shell. It's magic shell).
care,
Aaron
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From: cburke@nexus.yorku.ca (Carolyn L Burke)I hope this one suits your fancy as much as mine. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-From: cburke@nexus.yorku.ca (Carolyn L Burke)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Beat you to the second letter!!! I too am an Internet junkie! I'm on about 8 hours a day. With the consulting business and with my own work... I love it here. I'm one of the original cyberpunks. :) So let's see. Ummm this money / border thingy. Well. I don't much care... which ever way does the exchange rate the best is what I'd do. Hmmm. I lived in Pittsburgh last Sept to Feb. Let's see what I learned. Ummm. Well... there are a lot of Mellon banks in Pittsburgh. Hmmm. No. Well -- wing it! Let's stay in touch so that both of us can believe a real transaction is occuring. :) Most of our business contacts are like this - virtual contact solely. Its awfully exciting that way - and when I finally meet the flesh it is always the most interesting part. Did my ascii-develoed opinion realy gettot eh heart of matters. I think we have done a pretty good job so far. What are you writing your book about, if I may ask? (I remember while writing my thesis (the "T" word back then) that summing up the work was a difficult thing to do (except for grant proposals :). (Did I mention that Peter would probably give you his SLIP access password? He's always doing that. So you'd just need to get a local account to telnet to your more comfortable e-nest. Anyhow, let's make it a bit official then!! (So long as your friends are cool with it!) I'll pgp this note so that what's in it counts for something, and state that you can have the large front bedroom and shared rest of #1 209 Gilmour Avenue, Toronto, ON, Canada, M6P 3B2 starting June 1, 1995 for $400/month for first and last down (cheque through snail mail), and 2 months notice for leaving (barring tornados and other such interuptions of normal daily life :), all utilities included, and one really gret parking spot in our garage also included! Its all yours, baby. My phone is 416 604 7469. ps I pgp it so that *you* will be comfortable with this whole thing. Also I'll cc: Peter Fruchter so that he can meet you virtually too! Yours, Carolyn - --- End of forwarded message from Carolyn L Burke-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL6OOgP66Exg5gS4BAQHRqwIAn62bscghpQhiNc+DJiWofA31kGMabFex DnTSqcHtfxz5OmG6950gQd7tdxjKhJ2Vr7IH08mnQLJldeJDhXU3Vg== =VcSJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
"I'll take it!" For further details, read on. On Sun, 30 Apr 1995, Carolyn L Burke wrote: > Beat you to the second letter!!! > > I too am an Internet junkie! I'm on about 8 hours a day. With the > consulting business and with my own work... I love it here. I'm one of > the original cyberpunks. :) "Listen sonny boy, when _I_ was a cyberpunk, we didn't have all this fancy virtual reality with the slimy frogs and steamy windows. We had 14.4kbps connections to the net and we were HAPPY!" > > So let's see. Ummm this money / border thingy. Well. I don't much > care... which ever way does the exchange rate the best is what I'd do. > Hmmm. I lived in Pittsburgh last Sept to Feb. Let's see what I > learned. Ummm. Well... there are a lot of Mellon banks in Pittsburgh. > Hmmm. No. Well -- wing it! I know not of money. Let's see, I think that it might be easiest if I made out a check in the US equivalent of $800 CA, and when you deposited that it would get converted back to CA. That being the case, we just have to agree on what $800CA=$xUS. According to the Koblas Currency Converter (http://gnn.com/cgi-bin/gnn/currency) one US dollar=1.3625 Canadian dollars, as of April 27. I won't be anal out to 4 decimal places ;-). Should we call it 1.36? If we do, I can send you a check for $590US (rounded up) which should, by my calculations, convert to about $802CA. If you want to check my math, please do. I can send a check or money order or homing pigeon, but there should be sufficient time for a regular check to clear. Your pick. > > Let's stay in touch so that both of us can believe a real transaction is > occuring. :) Agreed. I try to do all my net transactions that way. > good job so far. What are you writing your book about, if I may ask? > (I remember while writing my thesis (the "T" word back then) that > summing up the work was a difficult thing to do (except for grant > proposals :). > Well, I'd started freelancing after graduation (last May) and quickly began writing regularly for Internet World. One of my articles was spooted by Alpha Books (a subdivision of Macmillan) and they were looking for an author to write a book on Internet "protection" (security) for the new users. It's one of their "Complete idiot's Guide To XXXX" series'. I just completed that book (light, final editing based on editors' comments are what's left, should be done in a couple weeks completely). They seem to like it (ok, blush, they like it a lot) and we're kicking around a few more project ideas. So it looks like I'll be starting another book soon after I move up there. Hopefully I can still squeeze time in to continue with Internet World (whom I've neglected for the past 2 months). I've staved off the world of the thesis for the time being, and that's a whole other ball of string still up in the air. > (Did I mention that Peter would probably give you his SLIP access > password? He's always doing that. So you'd just need to get a local > account to telnet to your more comfortable e-nest. > Whatever I can work out so that I can breathe Internet gases and drink Internet juice. I hope they've got some 28.8k accounts there, I want to sell my 14.4 modem and move up (but Cornell only offers 14.4, and I've been parasiting my account off them since graduation). > Anyhow, let's make it a bit official then!! (So long as your friends > are cool with it!) I'll pgp this note so that what's in it counts for > something, and state that you can have the large front bedroom and > shared rest of #1 209 Gilmour Avenue, Toronto, ON, Canada, M6P 3B2 > starting June 1, 1995 for $400/month for first and last down (cheque > through snail mail), and 2 months notice for leaving (barring tornados > and other such interuptions of normal daily life :), all utilities > included, and one really gret parking spot in our garage also included! > Its all yours, baby. My phone is 416 604 7469. It sounds great. I'm there, and so is my car. 2 months notice should be no problem, and as I understand it, natural disasters are rare in the Toronto metro area. > > ps I pgp it so that *you* will be comfortable with this whole thing. > Also I'll cc: Peter Fruchter so that he can meet you virtually too! > In cleaning up my current UNIX account I've deleted my PGP programs. So, foregoing the task of re-compiling it, I'll trust you :). Nonetheless, I appreciate the gesture! I'd return it if I could. That'll teach me next time I prepare to gut my account. I do have one other question, though. Regarding the date - June 1 is when my current lease is up. My father and brother would like to help me move (and who am I to stop them?) but they'd only be able to help on either weekend of May 26/27 (or is it 27/28? I forget) (which is a holiday weekend in the States). Would it be possible/okay to move in then? I can offer to tack on a prorated rent for those extra days if you like. If it's not ok, that's ok, too, I just wanted to ask. Lessee, can't think of much else..Thanks for everything -- your help, the place, today's weather (go on, take the credit while you can) -- if you have anything to add feel free. Otherwise that's my brain spill for now, and if I don't get some breakfast it will come to a grinding halt... cheers, Aaron -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-From: cburke@nexus.yorku.ca (Carolyn L Burke)
Aaron, Let's see. Sold. May 26 etc is fine by me as I'm moving out tomorrow actually. This'll give me time to do a slow move in to my new place and you a chance to get your stuff up here comfortably. Don't worry about paying for those days, please. And your conversion rates are cool by me. Would you really do the 4 decimal thing??! Did you want assistance in having a phone line by then? There's a couple of weeks time lag on such, and I'll be moving my number out tomorrow (with a couple of weeks time lag of cousre :). I'll go through massive withdrawal for a few days, I'm sure! You needn't if you send telephony info ahead of your feet. By the way, I've written an article or two about Internet stuff. See http://www.tcp.ca//Dec94/Newbies.html in _The Computer Paper_ for *Training Newbies* for that truly beginners experience. The book you've done sounds like great fun to have done! Congrats. Are you originally from Texas, or is that just your comforatble e-nest site? The DFW pages suggested that they intended (like every other ISP in North America) to go nation wide. Perhaps they've made it to Ithaca already and you've never seen Texas in your life. Hmm. Decentralized living spaces are so cool. Enjoy your breakfast, and I'll talk with you later! Carolyn -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 09:36:55 -0500 (CDT)
On Sun, 30 Apr 1995, Carolyn L Burke wrote: > Aaron, > > Let's see. Sold. May 26 etc is fine by me as I'm moving out tomorrow > actually. This'll give me time to do a slow move in to my new place and > you a chance to get your stuff up here comfortably. Don't worry about > paying for those days, please. And your conversion rates are cool by > me. Would you really do the 4 decimal thing??! Beu-tee-ful. And no, I've never used 4 decimals in my life, except when calculating lottery odds. > > Did you want assistance in having a phone line by then? There's a > couple of weeks time lag on such, and I'll be moving my number out > tomorrow (with a couple of weeks time lag of cousre :). I'll go through > massive withdrawal for a few days, I'm sure! You needn't if you send > telephony info ahead of your feet. By the way, I've written an article Telephone line would be good, yes. I'd be happy to launch my info your way, but tell me what info that is. Whatever needs to be known I'll reveal (granted, I don't maintain an on-line diary, ahem...)* > > Are you originally from Texas, or is that just your comforatble e-nest > site? The DFW pages suggested that they intended (like every other > ISP in North America) to go nation wide. Perhaps they've made it to > Ithaca already and you've never seen Texas in your life. Hmm. > Decentralized living spaces are so cool. > N'er been to Texas in my life (I'm from a large shopping mall known as Long Island, New York). I got the dfw account because Cornell was closing down my UNIX account, although I was using a friend's SLIP access. SO I need a Unix account to telnet in to. DFW had the lowest monthly rate ($6/month for telnet-only). I will keep the dfw.net account alive for awhile, in addition to a Toronto-based account, because te book will be printed with the dfw.net address. Decentralized living at its finest! > Enjoy your breakfast, and I'll talk with you later! > Mmmmm..bagel... *So, as I so cleverly alluded to, I had a strange epiphany while eating aforementioned bagel. I thought your name sounded familiar. And I remember that about a week ago I came across a Web diary that I found very fascinating -- not so much for the content (no offense, I'll explain) but the entire concept. I had been telling my roomate all about it last week. I remembered that it was by a "Carolyn" in Toronto. So eating my bagel, that little piece of your brain that puts one and one together clicked with its newfound glucose infusion, and I utterd "oh my." To the computer! THe thing was I knew the diary was at io.org and you didn't have an io.org email addres listed in your sig. Nonetheless, there it was, Carolyn Burke's online diary. Now, I should say right off the bat that I'm a very practical person who doesn't believe in ghosts that go boo, yet I watch "Sightings" for the fun of it (_ocassionally_). Having said that, that was a very eerie realization, and I'm not talking about a canal. Anywho, I began to read some of the diary but other strange feelings came up inside me about the whole concept, and I ended up abstracting out of the content and thinking about the concept and implications. I have an array of things to say about your endeavor, some of which I can articulate better than others probably (all good, though ;-), but I'll save it. Gotta digest the coincidence first. Now look who's verbose. Okay, I'm off... I will send a personal check for $590US Monday morning to the address you gave me in your last letter for yourself. If there are no objections, I will just go ahead and do that. Now I have a new address to tell people :) Centralized living has its plusses, too, you know. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 18:36:45 -0500 (CDT)
On Sun, 30 Apr 1995, Carolyn L Burke wrote: > Hi fingerer! > > What's up? > Now you show your true colors. Anyone that logs finger requests has a serious problem ;-) Actually, I tried for a long time to figure out how to do that. I eventually learned how, but then learned that the Ultrix system my account was on could not support any useful form of finger logging so I've resorted to a crude way of checking last access time on my .plan file. Isn't that so very fascinating? It really isn't, I know, but hey we all have our vices. Anyway now that I know you are watching I can be rest assured in my paranoia. -Aaron -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 18:45:00 -0500 (CDT)
You know, now I don't know whether I should read more of your Web page or not. I think I know too much about you and Peter already. Not that I mind, mind you, but rather that I can't help but feel that you all necessarily suffer from an information deficit about me, since I don't have my own Web page (yet-- not my fault). I don't have a central, cogent point to this, but to say that I am inspired by the openness that you've shown, esp via your Web page, and although you speak somewhat pragmatically about flat-out honesty, I haven't matured enough yet to take reality into account. So I'm happy to discuss anything and everything if and when it ever comes up, I'm not a boundaries type, although others certainly have that right should they so choose. That's just a little policy statement on my part. The monogrammed memo pads aren't in yet, though. Oh, and I think I can nicely compliment on Peter's aversion to socks. I don't (or hardly ever, anyway) wear long pants. Just shorts, and when it's cold, people do make comments. Like "You know your leg is blue," and that sort of thing. How rude. -Aaron -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-From: cburke@nexus.yorku.ca (Carolyn L Burke)
Aaron, I'm am rather relieved that you don't simply regard us as lunatics! The diary has served wonderfully to air so much that would otherwise have lived only in transient conversations. Peter is kinder then I make him out, and currently somewhat sad. He's also incredibly creative, ... jeez now I feel like I'm applying ofr a job :) But you already seem cool about the diary and my openness. SO I'll flow with it. Its remarkably interesting for yoto suddenly know so much... just imagine being so easily known (in some aspects) as if the other had used telepathy. In some sense, I'll never be able to pull the cool and confident routine in front of you. It'll be interesting. Peter is tickled pink by yur already knowing things .. and suddenly became concerned with creting a bit of his own PR. :) I'm going to link more of his writing into the diary to play fair. I think you'll like it up here. Someone asked me "Why Toronto?" I think it was Tracey. (You even sorta know my frineds a little. heh WHich ones do you think you'll get along with best (besides me, of course), or is that pushing it?) So what does interest you in TO? Have you been here before (I think so since you know its pretty flat -- Tracey suggested that there are some pretty nice bike routes through the city towards downtown)? Well, off to work now... well tothe other telnet screen! C -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 08:14:36 -0500 (CDT)
> job :) But you already seem cool about the diary and my openness. SO > I'll flow with it. Its remarkably interesting for yoto suddenly know so > much... just imagine being so easily known (in some aspects) as if the > other had used telepathy. In some sense, I'll never be able to pull the > cool and confident routine in front of you. The openness thing is actually quite important to me, in such a way that I would say I'm more than "cool with it." I prefer it. I have to say, this is funny is both a ha-ha and a Time Life Books sort of way, but when I first came upon your Web page way before we ever met this way, I wanted to write you email about it. THe thing was, immediately after encountering it, I wasn't sure how to articulate it. And I felt that "Your diary is cool," wasn't quite the expression I was looking for. So I figured I'd think about it more, and then email you, and now I run into you this way. At the least, I have plenty of more time to think about my articulation now. I have not read all of your page. In fact, I purposely stopped reading it and I don't think I will continue now that the circumstances have developed this way. Initially, I only read a few entries. I was very drawn to them, and the thoughts behind them, in their content and expression. But as I found myself thinking, "WOW I'd really like to meet this person," I also found myself countering that with, "Whoa there self -- you don't even know this person -- it's just some stranger with a Web page." Seeing someone from the inside out right off the bat is not the usual course of things, and I'm not sure what the implications are. So I stopped reading your specific diary entries, because I felt I didn't want to know those things about you in that way. The only ones I remember in specific were your writing about the move Priest and your recent anthropological analysis of America vs. Canada in light of attending those two US cultural events. I found that fascinating reading, in part because I do much of the same thing. In fact, one of my main motivations for coming to Canada is to aid in my understanding of both other worlds and my own. Without going into my dissertation on America right now (I have plenty to say in the future), briefly I'll say that Americans are very, very resistant to looking outside their borders. I believe they feel that doing so would be a sign of weakness. I, on the other hand, feel that everyone has to gain by learning from everyone else, and I think the isolationist, independent attitude has been one of America's greatest weaknesses. Ah, but enough politics, especially at -- what is it 8:49 AM!! ack I must cease and desist. > fair. I think you'll like it up here. Someone asked me "Why Toronto?" > I think it was Tracey. (You even sorta know my frineds a little. heh > WHich ones do you think you'll get along with best (besides me, of > course), or is that pushing it?) So what does interest you in TO? Have I don't know your friends too well, like I said, I stopped reading. I think knowing too much about you all at the outset would be more of a problem than a help. I also feel it would be unfair of me. Now, why Toronto? Several reasons. I've been asked this question before so I am prepared for it. At the most abstract level, we have to look at Canada as a whole before focusing in on Toronto. I've have a strange fantasy about living in Canada since I was a little child. I was exposed to strange Canadian imports such as "You Can't Do That on Television" and a lot of hockey, and something rubbed off from those cultural deluges that I liked. I don't know what, I was only 8 or so, but that has made me interested in Canada even as an adult. I have been there a few times, but by no means a lot. I've been to Montral 2 times, once when I was in my early teens and again last summer. I have been to Toronto 3 times, once in my later teens, and twice in this past year (last summer, and this past New Years Eve). The first time I went to Montreal (that was my first trip to Canada), I was enthralled by the place. It was doubly-new, since it was a new country and very foreign seeming (the French contributed, no doubt). I was not that impressed by Toronto when I first visited. I'm not sure why in retrospect, but I basically dismiss anything I believed when I was 17 as being the lunatic tides of hormones. I was much more impressed by Toronto on my second visit, with a more mature outlook. Why? I can tell you - -maybe this is an illusion on my part, and maybe not. Ever since I was little I was attracted to an urabn environment. I also like rural environments very much, it's not a "one or the other" for me. I visited New York City many times as a youngster (living on Long Island, it's an easy trip), and my mother lived there when she was very young. She told me her stories of going out and onto the subway and to a museum, and so forth. I was very attracted to that. In part, it was due to the fact that I grew up in the boondock suburbs on Long Island, where there are no tangible communities, and people are connected only by vast highways. The idea of a small, closed area where people live and work interested me. The problem was, as I grew older, that I realized New York City was a hellhole. I now cannot stand NYC, and I think it's a pit of humanity. True, it has the urban elements I liked as a child, but they are so overwhlemed by such a laundry list (oh, right, you don't like laundry lists, sorry ;-) of problems. Toronto, from my experience, is the closest I have seen to a city "done right." Moreso than any other city in the U.S. that I have been to. I suspect that's due to a combination of sociological and political reasons, all of which I can rant on about at some future time. Any city or town has an atmosphere and a personality, as I see it, and some are more or less compatible with one's own. I found Montreal to be a very nice city, too, but I had a more difficult time fitting in mentally, no doubt due to the French influence. My last two trips to Toronto, as a more fully formed adult, I found that its personality suited me very well. When I was there on New Years, I couldn't help but be struck by how in some ways it is like a small town with huge skyscrapers. That is, as we (friends and I) walked around Front St. on First Night, the way everyone seemed to stroll around slow paced and calm was antithetical to any "event" I'd been to in NYC. I know that some people refer to Toronto as "the good" and "boring" for these same reasons. I happen to like them -- or, at least I think I do. I feel that I am left more on the honor system in Toronto and Canada than in the U.S., and as a responsible person I like that. For example, when I was there last July, we stayed in the Church St. hostel. It was very hot and humid, and their A/C was for crap. The busses or trolleys or monster trucks or whatever the hell drive down that street didn't help. My friend and I decided we couldn't stay in the hostel so we walked downtown. We got to Front St., it was still hot and sticky out. To our surprise, we found that the BCE Center is open -- not open, per se, but the lobby was. And it was air conditioned. We hung out in there and were very comfortable, and I felt like we were being given a degree of freddom that we would not have in the U.S., to stay in the lobby of this big expensive building, when the rest of it is closed. I'm sure it wasn't left open by accident, because there was a security guard there who saw us and didn't seem to mind. I know that's only one story, and anecdotal evidence does not a good methodologist make, but it hit a nerve. We had a similar experience in the PATH in January, being able to wander around down there (and use the bathroom) even when every store inside was closed. By the same token, I'm not that naive, and I know there is crime and so forth in Toronto, and I know Torontonians have their problems. From reading the papers (which are trash, so that's one demerit), it seems Torontonians complain about a lot of things that they probably shouldn't. I'd like to see some more civic pride. Anyway, to get back to a reasonable facsimile of an answer to your question, my interest in Canada, my admiration of Toronto, and my desire to experience a new phase of life after having been in this college town for 5 years are all what are driving me there. And now I have a home ;-) I see the whole thing as an exploratory experience. If I'm wrong and I decide I hate Canada, or Toronto, then so be it. I don't go into experiences looking that they be "good" as such, because they're "good" by definition to me. So it'll be an adventure. And if I say anything that sounds too American, tip me off. No tourist, me. Having served up that little slice o' me for breakfast, I think I'll go replenish my supplies. And I have to hit the post office and put my trusty down payment in the good hands of the postal service. I'll let you know when I've mailed it off so you can feel that much more solid. I've written way too much before 9:15AM. Fingers will revolt. -Aaron -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 11:15:06 -0500 (CDT)
C, Well it's all in the hands of the good postal people now. I'm not sure how long it takes for a regular envelope to get from here to there. Having lived in Pittsburgh, you probably have a better idea than I. I've got two telecom questions for you: 1) In what year did -- oops, I meant, you said something briefly about my being able to arrange for a working phone line in advance. Could you tell me anything more on what needs to be done? Like you said, I want to avoid as much of a lag as is possible. I won't go off the walls killing people if it's not ready the second I get there, but I want to do what I can. (Now, 2 seconds lag and you're talking a whole other ball game. You know we all have guns down here. Big ones.) 2) I saw your rundown of service providers in Toronto on your consulting page. So I figure I'll come right to the source. Not to step all over your professional bounds, but do you have any off-the-record, friendly advice on where to get an account? I can read their links for specific services and costs myself, but I'm just wondering if you have any "Never use them" or "They're grrrrrreat!" comments. I'm basically looking for a 28.8 SLIP/PPP with as much time as humanly possibvle for as little $$ as possible. A unique desire, I'm sure. I'm also interested in the UNIX shell situation (although once I get my Linux installed and running that may not be so necessary. Man, I'm geeky. I hope this house can take the vibes.) Anyway, I'm going to browse your page and check out their rates and stuff, but any specific comments you have from experience are welcome. Gracias, as they say in some other country than this one. Mucho tortillo castillo habaneros, Aaron -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 12:47:46 -0400
Hey Carolyn, Since I have some time, I thought I'd write a bit about my thoughts about your whole Web endeavor. If I ramble on too long feel free to read every third word, those are the only important ones anyway. Although I'm a computer geek "by day" (well, often by night, too), nothing is more interesting to me than what you refer to as the "cognitive landscape." A lot of people assume I studied computer science in school - I don't know if you get that, too - but I got my degree (BA) in Psychology. In fact, I would even go so far as to say that my real interests in computing, networked computing, and the Internet involve the sociology and psychology of the humans involved. If I ever decide to go to grad school, that would probably be the area I studied, but that's another ball of melted wax entirely. My only real interest in computing is as far as it helps us humans and our cognitive landscapes. The two biggest challenges facing people, it seems, is the cartography of their own cognitive landscape, and effectively sharing/illuminating that landscape with others. I believe that this whole net thing can help, if we use it to (herein other cynical precipitates fall out, which I'll leave aside for now). I thought your "diary" (it strikes me as such a juvenile word, though, I need to think of a better term) really hit the solar plexus of this whole domain. Obviously, someone could read what you wrote and come away with the feeling, "Wow that Carolyn Burke is a complete case," but doing so is to fall prey to a biased sample. Of course, we'd all appear that way if someone only read our internal struggles and knew nothing else about us, so that is not the correct way to read your pages. Rather, I saw them, from the positive perspective, as a great meal. There's so much to feed on in there, although I fear that phrase is too anatomical for what I mean. Substance, there's a lot of substance, and it's the stuff the is the essence of us being humans, I think. (it's possible that Riesling and Merlot - my two ferrety roomates - have similar internal struggles, I suppose, but they're poor conversationalists). Okay, before I get too cosmic, I'll reign it in and say that there is a downside to my reaction to your writings. That is, it's like reading half of a conversation that I want to participate in, but cannot because it's all on a pre-existing page. So there was a certain element of frustration in that I could only share my thoughts, on a conversational basis, with my monitor, which also happens to be a poor conversationalist (but a good monitor). Beyond all that, there was a certain aspect of "great art" to what you did. I don't know enough about art to explain what I mean, but I can give an example. In a class I once took we were shown a videotape of an art exhibit. This artist guy had a very simple exhibit: there was an American flag laid out in full on the floor, and a shelf on the wall above the flag with a comment book for patrons to fill in. The thing was, you had to step on the flag to write your comments in the book. It's such a simple idea, that resulted in an amazing parsimony: people got angry, upset, and sometimes violent, in wanting to express their feelings about what he did with the flag, what he made them do to express their feelings, and the real paradox they faced in resolving either. It was beautiful, I thought, and brilliant. Perhaps that would only work in a country as blindly nationalist as the U.S., or back in the days of the USSR, but the essence of the art's achievement remains. Anyway, that's my "great art" example, in the way it's a very simple implementation but affects the "patron" in so many ways. Parsimonious art. Your online diary struck me similarly. I began to read some of it (the newest entries, because computing has jaded me in such a way that I only like to see the most up to date information possible), but then stopped. I couldn't figure out if I should read more or not. Why should I? Did I want to know all this about you, a total stranger at the time? What were the implications of "meeting" someone beginning with their deepest internal issues and never seeing any of the layers before that? It's at that point where I didn't read any more, because I needed to sort out those issues. I never have, and so I only know what portions I read before I stopped, which was some in the middle and some of the more recent stuff. I suspect that making the online diary may have had an entirely different set of implications for you, the "artist." In trying to put myself in your position, I thought that making my journal public record would at first be scary, but would eventually lead to a sort of isometry between my inner self and outer self. I imagine the image of a cell from biology class, and the way fluids can flow in and out depending at rates dependent upon various regulatory mechanisms. In everday life, we're all sort of like that cell, and we strictly regulate how much remains inside our cell wall, how much remains outside, and what flows between. But some cells are in a stasis point, where pressure is equalized within and without the cell wall such that fluids are in equal balance throughout. At that point, anything can pass into or out of the cell passively. I feel that the online journal may contribute to such a state, between you the individual and the outside world. Whether that state is good or not, I am honestly not sure. THere's a big part of me that believes it is good, and healthy. On the other hand, it's wise to always keep in mind that I may be wrong, and so, I may be wrong. Ah well, there you have it. Some of the generalized comments I wanted to make. I don't feel it's appropriate for me to discuss any of the specific details of content your wrote about in your diary, because while in many ways you express issues that we all mudwrestle with, specifics of your life are best dealt with by others who know you personally. Long serious mindspew over. Now it's time to hit this box of munchkins that I so guiltlessly bought from Dunkin Donuts, for the sole reason that I hadn't had a doughnut for years. One couldn't help but feel like everyone was watching as I went in, thinking, "Oh look at him going to get doughtnuts, shame shame!" Just like going into an adult bookstore -- err, I mean, whoops did I say that? More interestingly, though, I wonder how exactly a store that sells doughtnuts 24 hours a day pulls a profit. Is there that much of a demand for fried dough in this world? If so, what does that mean? And should I eat a jelly doughnut now or a chocolate creme? Well, off to struggle with that decision... -Aaron p.s. Don't feel compelled to respond to any of this, since it's quite long and you have like a business to run and HTML to write. (Nice Netscape tables, btw, on your ISP overview page! ;-) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-From: cburke@nexus.yorku.ca (Carolyn L Burke)
I think we're going to get along just great. Life can be like that. As you may have noted, I have quite a computer type mind and education, and at the same time, am more interested intrinsically in the doings of organics. The non-rule governed systems, limited only by empircal happenstance and empirical law, such as a person or a society, always manage to surprise me - to make me smile. I know that the game involved is not simply to determine the rules as one can in any video game and thereby effectively create an algorithm of play. The game of life, as it were, cannot be algorithmically described in its interesting bits - in the strategy and feedback loops, even where primitive recursive functions tread, I believe. I've argued with those that think otherwise, and who have the same sense ofthe infinite at the same time. SOmewhere I'd like to be able to point to their notion of the infinite as inear... how arrogant probably. "diary" is like "american flag": exactly. Its a childish word, bringing up thoughts of little girls and special key and lock hiding places. This is the hook I've used to catch peoples attention. It seems to work. :) What are your friendships like? Your most significant other history? And, of course your choice of question I should have asked instead!? May I have your permission to place some of what you've written to me online? As a dialogue between us? I haven't asked the other persons I've involved.. they got involved with me long before the diary and could see such things coming. You do too I think, but I would ahte to alienate before even meeting. Sushi? C -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 00:02:58 -0400
>SOmewhere I'd like to be able to point to their notion of the infinite >as inear... how arrogant probably. I've never been accused of lacking arrogance, go for it. You tell 'em. Seriously, though, I'm going to hold off on springboarding too deep from what you wrote simply because I don't want this email to get too huge. Furthermore, I'm not in enough of an altered state of consciousness to be fully lucid. Not to sound overly chemically dependant, but I do find my capacity to play with the notion of linearity and/or the lack thereof lubricated with external help from time to time. No matter though, I will have more to say on those topics in any state in the future. >What are your friendships like? Your most significant other history? >And, of course your choice of question I should have asked instead!? I'm not entirely sure how I come across in email, but if I'm going to discuss my relationships I should say outright that I'm not an extremely social person. On the surface, that may seem contradictory with what I wrote about my interest in human emotions/reactions/involvements/etc, but it's not. I'll prove it. For one thing, I don't like very superficial relationships, which is what I find many people to be used to, and to seek. Just knowing people for the sake of adding another social notch doesn't turn my mood ring. So I tend to have a small social circle, and I like it that way. A few good relationships are all I really am interested in, and anything extraneous I can take or leave. Having said that, I'm also rather shy and introverted, so I don't really "meet people" very well. I can come across more lively in email because I'm more comfortable here, at first. I realize that many stereotype computer geeks that way, and I suppose for me it is true, to a degree. However, I would emphasize that I said "at first" in the previous sentence. When I grow comfortable with someone, I am just as expressive and comfortable in real life as I am in email, but many people misinterpret my initial adjustment period as a form of coldness or lack of enthusiasm. Like a soldering iron, I just take a little while to heat up. For a combination of the above reasons, I have just a small few friends to mention. Most notably is my current roomate Steve, who I've been living with since sophomore year of college, so that is about 4 years now. If it wasn't also such a childish word I'd say he's my "best friend," but I basically see him as an extension of my family (which is a good thing, something you can't necessarily assume when someone refers to their family). Then there are a couple other friends who live in D.C., mutual friends of Steve and mine. That's basically it, really. Now, as to your question about significant others, that's an interesting issue. It obviously raises the question of sexuality, which I figured was going to come up sooner or later, and I put my chips on sooner. I don't see sexuality among people as a very bipolar thing, as most of society does. So I have a hard time answering people's question as to whether I am "straight" or "gay," because I feel both words are problematic. By society's standards, though, I would be considered "straight," and so that's what I tell people who are just speaking as the mouths of society (and whom I don't care to lecture to about how I view sexuality). One of the reasons that I'm uncomfortable with the term "straight" is because the way it was used when I grew up connotated that you were both attracted to females and repulsed by males. And I can't say that's all true. It's true that I'm attracted to women, just as strongly as any "typical straight," so I figure the straight label suffices for me. It's just that I'm not repulsed by men, because I find all sexuality of a certain degree of interest and eroticism. I'm just not all that attracted to men, but I'm not unattracted to them. I'm not incredibly, or even barely, sexually experienced, mostly due to the social relationships stuff I outlined earlier. Ironically, though, I have had some male experience because those situations have arisen, largely when I was in an exploratory phase. I haven't had any other experience than that, which doesn't bother me terribly, because I am more interested in quality relationships than just jettisoning some label measuring experience. Although I think sex and sexuality is a great and healthy thing, I'm not one who would just seek it for itself, per se. Part ideology, part insecurity. No part religion or morality or any of that. Steve has been my most significant relationship, and in fact several years ago I did "experiment" with a more significant relationship with him. It didn't work, but I don't regret it. I learned a lot about myself, one of those being that I can't have such a relationship with another man, they just don't "do it" for me. I find exploring the reasons why that is, and why I am so much more attracted to women, a fascinating thing, but I'll spare you my in-progress liner notes on that for now. Oh, I should mention that Steve is gay, true blue. In fact, so are all my other friends. It just sort of turned out that way. I knew the friends I have now early in college, and over the years they all managed to come out. The domino effect reprised, given that Communism didn't go over so well. It's been a sore point between my mother and I, my friends all being gay, as she thinks that I must be, too, to have any way to relate to them. Sorry, mom. I'm not friends with them all because they're gay, although there may be other correlates that affect their personality that were functional variables. I basically know what that variable is -- it's sex typed-ness. That is, I'm not comfortable around/with people who are strongly sex-typed, masculine or feminine. I find those roles to be rather artificial, and people that play them up turn me off. That's not to say I like indiscernable sexuality, rather I like it natural. People who are just themselves, which for men and women overlaps far more than many realize, is what I am comfortable with. I have just as much of a problem with gays who act extremely sex-typed as straights who do (I don't mean they're bad people, I just don't gel with them very well). So my friends, gay or straight, are just themselves, and their sexuality is not the foremost issue on their agenda of life, although important. I've abandoned the "goal" of meeting people for certain types of relationships. That is, some guys say "I have to find a girlfriend," or worse, "I need a wife." I used to think that way (the former, not the latter) years ago, but I find it pointless now. I'm just interested in people, and in forming healthy relationships with them. Whatever those may turn into is defined by the "happenstance" of the dynamics that develop, to refer back to your non-deterministic view of human relationships. Such are not things to be plotted or planned, and they are not games with rules. I had a friend in college who was very into the rulebook of life, so much so that he would get ulcers over whether his particular manipulation of a salt shaker at the dining hall table gave the proper sign to an intended woman. I'm not friends with him anymore ;-) I think I answered your above questions plus a little more. As I alluded to when talking about sex and morals, I'm not religious, which probably doesn't shock you incredibly. I am Jewish by birth, an ethnicity and culture which, like a tattoo, is difficult to get out of your skin completely without laser surgery. But since we have no universal health coverage here, I've had to forego the operation. On the other hand, I don't promote abject atheism. With my methodological training, I feel that would be an inappropriate conclusion based on the empirical evidence. I'm not all that interested in the concept of "God" as promoted by major Western religions, because it's too concrete and too political a concept. I actually believe that a certain amount of what I will call "spirituality" can be a healthy thing for someone, but that is not something our civilization has cultivated, and not something I've achieved in my own life yet. The complex, non-parsimonious rule-based political system that contemporary religions rely upon have little or nothing to do with spirituality and everything to do with power and control. Neither of which interest me. There's a bonus answer for you. > >May I have your permission to place some of what you've written to me >online? As a dialogue between us? I haven't asked the other persons >I've involved.. they got involved with me long before the diary and >could see such things coming. You do too I think, but I would ahte to >alienate before even meeting. > It did occur to me, yes, and in fact it makes for a very interesting, strange, and probably twisted story. There's a Through The Looking Glass remake for the 90's in there somewhere: someone reads your Web page, is drawn in, strikes up a conversation with you, and in turn becomes a part of your Web page. And so on, ad totem, until you've sucked the entire population in from out the outside. Oh well, now it took a science fiction-y turn, and I'm not a big sci fi fan. I'll stop the brainstorm there. Sure, you can include anything you want from our conversations on the page! I don't mind at all, for many of the same reasons you created the page in the first place. It's sorta fun in a strange way. A mix of exhibitionism and freefalling -- like pulling down your underwear while bunjee jumping. Not that I've ever done either of those. >Sushi? No thanks I like my seafood cooked :) As a young child, though, I have fond memories of sucking down raw clams on the half shell by the half-dozen at the shore. That was shortly before the kindly government agencies warned us that continuing to do so may result in appendages growing from unusual places. I do find the third arm rather useful, though. must sleep, Aaron -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 14:13:05 -0500 (CDT)
I ran across this just before, and seeing as how you keep that nifty ISP table/overview on your FCS page I thought I'd run it by you. Sounds interesting if they manage to pull it off: ----------------------------- [deleted] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 07:16:26 -0500 (CDT)
Howdy there, email backlog person. Two forms of ID? I think I can swing that, I guess I'll give them a call and see what they have to tell me per setting things up in advance. Any chance you can give me Bell Canada's phone number? I imagine I can find it somewhere in this big, diminishingly green world, but I figured I'd ask. If I have to wait a few days for the line after arriving that won't be a major problem, but more than that might be (it looks like I'll have another book to start on right away). FUrnishings -- yeah, I wasn't exactly sure what that situation was, because in your original post you wrote "nicely finished" and I wasn't sure what that meant. But I didn't bring it up initially because I thought about it and realized it didn't matter a whole lot (as opposed to an unfurnished entire apartment, which would matter more). The only major things I need are a bed and a computer desk, both of which I could probably just buy myself. For the bed, I mean, if threre's isn't a frame or anything already there I could just get a mattress on the floor for all I care -- I did that in my sophomore year in college and learned that the purpose of a frame and boxspring seemed questionable. Felt exactly the same. And you can roll over to get things easier. As for the computer desk, that's something I can shop for if a suitable isn't there, which is no big deal, I pretty much expected that. Other than those two things, I suppose the only other stuff I can think of are what you might call "other stuff." If you want to leave behind anything else, like stands or pieces of wood that hold stuff, etc. that's fine. I'll make do with whatever is around. It's all just a matter of where the books and CD's and whatnot go, which can be accomplished in a variety of flexible ways. You said there was a closet of some sort, so that takes care of the clothing thing. That's all I'll say for now, so I don't waterlog your incoming folder any further. I'll see what Bell Canada has to tell me. I wonder if they have to pay a monthly fee to have their own phones in their offices? Would they send "final disconnection" notices to themselves if they don't pay? (yes) -Aaron -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 13:02:29 -0500 (CDT)
> I'll leave lots of little pieces of wood, and you can play mechano with > them? I used the useless wooden bed fram as my computer desk - I sit > cross legged in front of the screen which is then at eye level, and type > away. Ouch! Ouch! Ouch! You must be made of rubber, or some close synthetic approximation thereof. If I did that I'd be paralyzed within minutes. Have it your way, as they claim to say at Burger King, not that I would know. I've never played mechano, but I know what wood is when I see it. Sounds good. I had been under the assumption/impression that the US postal service wouldn't forward my mail to Canada, but I asked today and they said that they did, with no postage due. Label me impressed. We know our socialism! meow -Aaron -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-To: many
I'd like to invite you to a house-warming party this Saturday evening
around 8pm. The address is
959 A 2 Bloor Street West, Toronto
between: Dovercourt and Ossington on the South side
above: Dovercourt / Bloor Appliances
This is a bring everyone you know party as I won't have the painting or
carpet cleaning done until next week! This includes loved ones,
roommates, best buddies, and your cats. And I'm inviting the neighbours
too!
Hope to see you there. I'm off to Vermont for a few days and will not
be back in town until Saturday afternoon. So call and leave me a
message at my new number 416 588 0517 or RSVP through email (which is
still the same of course).
miau,
Carolyn
ps There is a subway stop just opposite me here. Its the Ossington stop
at the Deleware exit on the Bloor West line. miau again
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Date: Mon, 15 May 95 15:13:28 CDTHow-dee, Just a coupla things-- I called Bell Canada, they told me basically what I needed to know. I've got to pay them a deposit before I can arrange for installation, and I'm not sure if/how I can pay them before I get there. I'll think about that more soon, it's not the biggest emergency in the world. Second, the plan of operation is that I'm going to be arriving there (there=Toronto) sometimes in the latter half of the day of Friday, May 26. My father and brother are going to help me move, and they're driving up to Ithaca early Fri. morning and we'll depart mid-day-ish from here -- it's about 5 hours from here to Toronto. So I'm not sure how you figured it would work out in terms of my getting into the house and whatnot. I guess I'll just unpack my car mostly, then I've got to spend that weekend on the little family tour of the city, so I won't "really" be "in" until they're gone on Sunday. Other than that, that's about it. Anything else you want to pipe in on the matter feel more than free. That is, if it's possible to feel more than free, which is an interesting question in and of itself, and one which I will entirely ignore for the time being. woof, Aaron -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-From: cburke@nexus.yorku.ca (Carolyn L Burke)
Hi! Just a short note to say "hi"! Carolyn -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Thu, 18 May 95 13:17:21 CDT
Salut -- Just a quick note to let you know that I made phone arrangments for myself (I can tie my own laces, too!). It went rather easily. They're going to (try) and activate it on Saturday May 27 before noon. They seemed to know which phone lines existed in the house using their big brother computer, so it was pretty easy going. 'tis all- Aaron, who doesn't even like winter yet is moving to Canada -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Thu, 18 May 95 13:17:21 CDT
Salut -- Just a quick note to let you know that I made phone arrangments for myself (I can tie my own laces, too!). It went rather easily. They're going to (try) and activate it on Saturday May 27 before noon. They seemed to know which phone lines existed in the house using their big brother computer, so it was pretty easy going. 'tis all- Aaron, who doesn't even like winter yet is moving to Canada -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-From: cburke@nexus.yorku.ca (Carolyn L Burke)
Heh... So you can wrassle phone cops! Well done. Guess I'll see you in a week or so. Cool C -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Thu, 18 May 95 14:41:44 CDT
I don't mean to be a pest, but I was just wondering what the situation will be with regards to getting into the house whenever it is that I arrive. Anal, I know, I haven't had enough sugar. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-From: cburke@nexus.yorku.ca (Carolyn L Burke)
Heh.. well how about this: we've left the front door unlocked since we bought the house. I know this is, well, unusual... but it has worked so far! Not too un-anal I hope?! Of course you are welcome to have a key. But I wouldn't even know how to use it! So I expect with all this practice in non-locking, no-one will figure out how to lock anything in the next week. I think you're homefree onthis count. I'm going to go over and tidy up. I'm sure in my hasty departure last week that I left a mess behind. :) Carolyn -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Thu, 18 May 95 15:05:15 CDT
>Heh.. well how about this: we've left the front door unlocked since we >bought the house. I know this is, well, unusual... but it has worked so >far! Not too un-anal I hope?! > >Of course you are welcome to have a key. But I wouldn't even know how >to use it! > >So I expect with all this practice in non-locking, no-one will figure >out how to lock anything in the next week. I think you're homefree >onthis count. > Oh, that sounds great. I haven't locked my front door in 2 years :-) There's little crime here so I usually don't bother either. I'm definitely un-anal about that sort of thing. I knew Toronto wasn't exactly New York City, but I have to admit I am a little surprised that you're that lax about it. Surprised but happy, though, don't get me wrong. It all sounds fine then. I won't worry about the key for now, maybe some other time, it's no emergency as far as I care. asta la next weeka, Aaron -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Wed, 24 May 95 06:51:22 CDT
Guten mornin,
As my day crawls forward, I wanted to offer a little "pre-me"
disclaimer -- not that that should sound frightfully foreshadowy
or anything, but I feel compelled nonetheless.
I suspect I'm not going to be very representative of myself at first,
for several reasons (and since the one thing I am anal about is not being
misrepresented...): fresh-faced in a new city, in a new country, will leave
me rather subordinate to most of what's around me. That aspect is in some
ways scary, but in more ways exciting.
In addition, and perhaps more psychologically/emotionally impacting, is that
I've lived (as I mentioned some other time) with a very close friend for the
past several years. The voice of cognitive dissonance would love to find
"good reasons" to separate from a place or a person when you must, but in
this case cog. dis. loses out. When you live with someone for a long time
(whatever one defines "a long time" as for themself), it is hard to imagine
a world on your own again. There are the big reasons, and the little reasons
(rambling on about today's politics, or the stupid person in the checkout
line who couldn't find their checkbook). So I face the prospect of being
both in a new city, in a new country, plus being "on my own" ("alone," is
the more honest phrasing, I think) for the first time in a long time. A
prospect which I have a certain amount of apprehension/unknowing about.
Okay, a lot of apprehension.
The point of all this being that this is something of an upheaving
experience for me, but also a very desired one. It's exciting, but
drastically different from what my somatic cells have grown used to. So, I
expect that I won't be very representative of myself for some undetermined
period of time. Then again, perhaps I will wind up modifying/shifting just
who "myself" is, in accordance with the representation. Who the heck knows.
Fun, fun.
Anyway, I just wanted to say all that for some reason. Breakfast calls ...
or distracts ...
-Aaron
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From: cburke@nexus.yorku.ca (Carolyn L Burke)Purrr Aaron, As I am going through exactly the same collection of new things, I can really relate. (Idid the country new thing last September, for 6 months), and now on my return I am living alone for the first time without Peter in 10 or so years. I know my compromise buttons all shifted around, and I smile more often at new acquaintances, and less at old .. simply to adjust. You'll find Nedra and Peter really warm people, and creative, and if nothing else, able to understand others really well. I'm a few blocks away, and although I'm rather unable to visit over there (too many painful reminders that Idon't live there anymore), I'm hoping that things will settle out soon and I can visit with more ease. That said, you'll have as much time space as you wnat / don't want to be yourself. Peter tends to get to know another person immediately, and Nedra will follow along in this, I'm sure. If I were you, i'd be prepared to make sure I stayed the person I was a little more than I wanted the end result to be so as to counter their easy seeing through of facades (including just not being yourself for awhile). I'd like to introduce you through email to the others, if youlike. Would that help at all? How can we make your arrival smoother, and more relaxed for you? When exactly are you planning on arriving here -- I can have Peter be around to greet you. Or me if that would help more?! See you soon, Carolyn -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Wed, 24 May 95 09:42:10 CDT
>I'd like to introduce you through email to the others, if youlike.
>Would that help at all? How can we make your arrival smoother, and more
>relaxed for you? When exactly are you planning on arriving here -- I
>can have Peter be around to greet you. Or me if that would help
>more?!
>
I really appreciate your kindly response/offers. I don't think I need too
much smoothing, though -- psychologically I think I'm fairly set. ("THINK,"
being the operative, and variable, word). Like I said, I'm planning on
arriving sometime in the latter part of the day on Friday (4-5pm-ish
depending on traffic, what time we make it out of here, etc.) , but I'm not
sure how much time I'll be at the house right-off. That is, since my father
and brother are accompanying me to help out (plus they want to see the
city), I'm probably going to unload my stuff and then go off with them
around the city until Sunday when they leave. So I'll be unpredictably
around the house for the first couple days (of course, I'll be there at
night). After that intial frenzy, then it'll just be me, my spoons, and y'all.
So it's ok if no one is around the house when I specifically arrive, I won't
be there for too long anyway before heading downtown to my family's hotel. I
look forward to meeting the lot of you (even if you are two separate
factions now :-) I understand all that.), and my generalized anxiety is
eased by your advice/descriptions.
I do think I can better maintain myself in the face of all this than in my
previous model -- freshman year of college, which was the last time I really
had to meet "new people". I like to believe I'm a lot more confident in
myself now, so that should lend to some degree of enhanced composure.
I'd be happy to be introduced to anyone you wish by email, but it's not a
requirement. If you get around to it, I'll happily show my ASCII face.
danke (I feel German today),
Aaron
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Date: Mon, 29 May 95 14:48:42 CDTActually, I think the green works well but then, color coordination was left out of my DNA. So, as you could induce, I'm here, on the floor, in Toronto. The floor part may not have been so obvious, but my desk won't arrive until Friday (nor will my mattress). So for now I'm just mimicking this cat who's sleeping at my feet -- that is, curling up on the floor. Works for him. Or her, I haven't checked, sorry :) Bell Canada failed to do something right, as the phone jack which I presume would be my line don't do nuttin. There is another jack behind the dresser which I found is apparently an extension of another house line (since I picked it up and heard someone else talking on it -- whoops). So I called Bell this morning and they mumbled something about a guy coming later today. He better. For now I'm using the extension line, and Peter's SLIP account, and telnetting into my various shell accounts around the continent. I think I've got a lot figured out so far, but since I was doing the uber-tourist thing with my father and brother over the weekend (now they're gone) I hadn't had too much exploration time. I got a quick course in the garage from Peter (along with a key), but I'm still not sure how I can open the garage without getting out of the car, going into the back, hitting the button, getting back into the car, and parking. I'm about to try to find food-gathering sources. I have a predilection for bigger, suburban-type supermarkets, but I'm not sure to what scale I can find that around here. The yellow pages were only marginally helpful. I like the room a lot -- nice size, nice windows, and very nice library :-) Quite the fancy feast book selection. I won't be bored! (Learned about anthropology last evening, courtesy of your textbook. Hope you don't mind :) Okay I'll shaddup now.. -Aaron -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-From: cburke@nexus.yorku.ca (Carolyn L Burke)
Blinds is all you noticed? I guess you haven't met up with the kitchen yet! :) Now that's green! I'm glad to hear that you've found you place alright, and satisfying. The cats are, in order from big to small, er .. how about colour coded instead: Kitten (black and white), Moppins (black and very fuzzy), Dagney (orange - she'llhit you if you don't serve her undyingly forever), Jerry (grey tabby - the big one), and Sable (grey tabby - small cat with much cat wisdom). Good luck! So the phone cops are evil. What's new?! Wish that had worked out better for you. Let me know when I can call you in the flesh. I got two lines in here after three days of being here. I'm at 416 588 0517 if you want to call here. About the garage thingy .. there is a pushbutton garage door opener thing last seen by me on the kitchen table. Ask Peter where he or Alex left it. It is space age comfort for your car. I think I have the other one but it'll take longer to get that over to you, and I think you are the only garage user at ths point. > I'm about to try to find food-gathering sources. I have a predilection for > bigger, suburban-type supermarkets, but I'm not sure to what scale I can > find that around here. The yellow pages were only marginally helpful. Heh. OK. Get onto Dundas which is northof you. Go right, ummm, east til you hit Pacific Avenue and turnright again. There is a big no frills store which is really quite good. Ignorethe lack of frills - anything witht he brand name President's Choice is high quality stuff. Its a marketing strategy. But if you're into really cool deli shopping, go down instead to Bloor, which is south, and there isa really nice stretch right there called Bloor West Village. Lots of cheese and pastry shops, meats, veggie stores, etc. And another big no frills store to boot if you go left on Bloor. Well enough blabbering on fornow. We should get together before too much longer and chat! > I like the room a lot -- nice size, nice windows, and very nice library :-) > Quite the fancy feast book selection. I won't be bored! (Learned about > anthropology last evening, courtesy of your textbook. Hope you don't mind :) :) bye for now! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Tue, 30 May 95 07:40:09 CDT
>Well enough blabbering on fornow. We should get together before too >much longer and chat! > I agree -- today I've got to wait around for the phone "technician" to come by sometime after 1. Of course, *I* know what the problem is. The problem, I would bet my left sleeve, is that they connected my assigned # to the wrong line. Which line, I don't know. So I have to convince him of that, and cajole him into connecting my phone # to the *right* line. Hopefully he'll acquiesce easily. I'm totally free other than that until Friday, when I then have to wait around yet again for my bed and desk. This morning it's off to the No-Frills store as per your recommendation to head off my continuing starvation (it's cleansing!). Anyway, my point here is that it'd probably be best if you offered up a suggestion, and I'll be there. With bells on. Actually just one bell, if you wear too many people stare. -Aaron -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Wed, 31 May 95 15:02:19 CDT
Were I left entirely to my own devices, I'd probably try to stick a pin in the bag over my bowl o' cereal and see what happens. Fortunately, Peter explained to auslander ol' me exactly how one is supposed to manipulate a bag full of milk. You people. It's funny -- I was listening to the radio and someone said that outsiders had the impression that Canadians were a bunch of humorless cheese-eaters -- then I went into the kitchen for a drink and there was this humongous slab of cheese in there. Truth, coincidence, or mystery of the unknown? No matter, I like cheese anyhow. So the phone man came by and fixed me up. And my phone, too. My assigned number is 763-6538, which I'm doing a poor job of remembering. I'm available to get together anytime you want 'cept I have to hang out here Friday for the deliverypeople (at which time I'll get a bed which will help to alleviate these floor-related sores that have developed in unnatural places. And a desk which will alleviate the carpal-body syndrome one experiences when typing prone on the floor. But I'm not complaining -- it's a rite (right!) of passage). Okay, I'll leave out my various other minor thoughts and observations for now, there's the meat of it. later --- Aaron -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-From: cburke@nexus.yorku.ca (Carolyn L Burke)
Hi Aaron, I've found that many cats placed gently on top of the milk bag will considerably reduce the amount of time spent trying to find another solution! Let's see ... scheduling is such a strong suit of mine... tomorrow I'm hangng out and around with Peter, and Friday is a CBC interview thing - much fun. I'll have to tell you about my feelings in reaction to slowly rising fame! It's awfully fun. Saturday .. now how abouthtis. Peter has given me the all clear to vist all of my very furry friends -- me not being up to visiting them plus your other roommates yet. :( I was thinking of dropping by there around noon. Would you enjoy getting together for a walkown to Bloor afterthat? I know I'll be inhte neighbourhood! :) I hope you find a better that York ISP... its been really irritating the last two days because they found some sort of hacker and shut down all Internet connecting. I've been able to telnet but not ftp. (Grrr.) The other ISPs are finicky during peak hours. So if you find a tastier morsel, please do tell! Yours, Carolyn -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Wed, 31 May 95 17:38:21 CDT
>Hi Aaron, > >I've found that many cats placed gently on top of the milk bag will >considerably reduce the amount of time spent trying to find another >solution! Cats, it would appear in the world according to you, are the solution to many things. This is new knowledge to me. And I thought they just sat there and stared. > >Let's see ... scheduling is such a strong suit of mine... tomorrow I'm >hangng out and around with Peter, and Friday is a CBC interview thing - >much fun. I'll have to tell you about my feelings in reaction to slowly >rising fame! It's awfully fun. Fame? Even if it is slowly rising. Besides, look at what happens to all those overnight starts, like Ricky Schroeder (if you don't know who he is up here than I will look silly, but my point made that much stronger). Will it be on TV? Radio? When? > >Saturday .. now how abouthtis. Peter has given me the all clear to vist >all of my very furry friends -- me not being up to visiting them plus >your other roommates yet. :( I was thinking of dropping by there >around noon. Would you enjoy getting together for a walkown to Bloor >afterthat? I know I'll be inhte neighbourhood! :) Sure, that sounds fine, and not only that but this room should have some semblence of order, as opposed to the shantytown it looks like now. I'll be here (it's not like I have any place else to go. That's one of the weird things about a new place). > >I hope you find a better that York ISP... its been really irritating the >last two days because they found some sort of hacker and shut down all >Internet connecting. I've been able to telnet but not ftp. (Grrr.) >The other ISPs are finicky during peak hours. So if you find a tastier >morsel, please do tell! > So true -- I've had mucho problems getting through the password authentication. I filled out a signup form for Internex. I could back out if something better came along, but that *seemed* to be the best I could find for my usage level for the price. I'm not sure if they support 28.8, though. Ideally, I'd like an account which gives me Unix shell/SLIP or PPP for about 6 hours/day at 28.8, for around $30/month. My browsing of other local providers didn't seem any more fruitful, though. Life the eternal struggle. And what's worse, there don't seem to be any nutritional labelling laws in Canada. Half the food I buy has no information on it. Heathens all! Cheese-eating heathens, granted, but heathens nonetheless. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Date: Tue, 6 Jun 95 20:52:04 CDT
Salut -- I've figured out the answer to your question. Actually, one of your questions, which you may well not remember even asking. And it's not that I've been struggling to come up with an answer for 3 days, rather it just came to me. A little chocolate cookie told me. What the heck am I talking about? The other day, I made mention about how I don't like to work within pre-determined schedules, even though I fall into a fairly regular schedule by default. You asked if someone were to present the my de facto schedule, if I would still resist it. I didn't have a satisfactory answer. Doubtless you've been clawing at the foam in your mattress to find out (that, or you've been involved in "actual life"). I've found that some people are "bursty" while others are "steady". The best analogy I can use to illustrate this is bicycling. When you are bicycling, especially when facing any sort of incline, there are two options: you can pedal very strongly until the end of the incline, where you then coast, or you can pedal slow and consistently, up the incline, and continue doing so as you reach level ground again. I find this approach to things really spreads out to many facets of life. My friend Steve is a perfect example of a "steady" person. He engages in any activity in a deliberate, paced, steady manner that, like the Energizer rabbit, just keeps going and going. I, on the other hand, am extremely bursty. I engage in any activity in a burst of energy, and then a period of rest, burst of energy, rest, etc. This makes my life more episodic than a steady person's. Tying this into the question at hand, the reason I don't like pre-determined schedules is because they have no end to them. If I cannot see an endpoint, the landscape appears to me as infinite, and thus requiring continuous, steady effort. I fail to succeed at that sort of thing, which is evidenced by the jobs I've quit or been fired from in the past, because after a certain period of time I couldn't put in the required effort anymore without a rest period. What is attractive about my de facto schedule, and book writing (for instance), is that it has the flexibility to be episodic, and therefore conform better to my natural curves (or is that a maxi pad? Either way...) So there you have it. Incredibly exciting, to be sure, the sort of thing that launches crowds into wild cheering. If I may change the topic, and I may since I'm the only one talking here, I read your entry about forms of expression. This is an interesting topic. Even though I identify myself as "a writer" (whatever it is that means. I have my idea which I might explain later in this message), I do not read very much. I read non-fiction stuff for my academic/intellectual interests, but that's entirely other from expressive interests. I do not read fiction or any other sort of "art" literature. I listen to music. When I identify myself as "a writer," I mean that articulate "verbal" language is the form through which I can express myself. But, for some reason, I'm not that interested in others' expressions in the verbal form. I find that I can "understand" the expressions of music far better, far more viscerally, and far more interestingly. There is also an articulate language in music (which does not mean that every musician is articulate), and it's one that I can strongly comprehend but am utterly helpless to produce. This has led to a very strange, yet interesting, dichotomy. I can express myself in writing, but I really am not that in touch with others' written expressions (I am very unappreciative of poetry). I can't play music for crap (believe me, my musical forays sound analagous to a 5 year old's attempts at verbal language), but I can comprehend and appreciate it. The final result of this being that I own few books yet hope to write many, and I own many CD's, and I wish I could produce music. But I won't complain too much -- after all, the more books one writes the more CD's one can buy! It may have been disconcerting to see someone else having made something of a home in what used to be your own for such a long time. I would imagine that's how I would feel. Sorry ;-) I am learning the cats better. Dagney is inconsistent -- she approaches me and sometimes enjoys my attention, but other times she gets mad and makes some bad cat gesture and goes away. Sable likes to walk close to me, look me straight in the eyes, and say a very deliberate, "meow". But should I make a move of any sort, she sprints away. The other cats still consider me a novelty best viewed from afar. I finally got my desk and chair today, so my computing facilities are much improved from a chiropractic standpoint. In setting it up, I had one of those sweet little "oh my, I'm a moron" moments in life, when I rolled up the bamboo blinds only to find out that there's no window behind them. And to think, all this time I thought there was. In defense of my own idiocy, one does wonder why exactly they are there. Yikes, I think I've gone on long enough. Back to your regularly scheduled life. There are more questions that I wanted to turn around on you (that is, based on some you asked me), but not only do I forget them now, it's time to shutup. -Aaron -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-